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Let's talk about the economy, Marcus Limonis, member of him and the profit,

unbelievably successful businessman, camping world CEO, and host of The Fixer.

Marcus, welcome back.

It's been seven minutes.

Good morning, Brian.

It's been seven minutes, but I have to tell you, after reading this jobs report,

I don't know how much more frustrated people can be right now, being honest with you.

So we're talking about 73,000 instead of 105,000? Well, it's 73,000 today. But if we look back

over the last couple of months, that number came, you know, roaring down. And as I said to you a few minutes ago, you have to wonder, doesn't the Fed get a preview to these types of data points? This is a really important data point. I think, are they waiting for a bunch of people to get fired? Or are they waiting for companies to say, we're not doing anything until we see some sort of relief somewhere? That's what's frustrating to me. You know what bothers me. You know, you're going to make the numbers. You're an economist, you're a Fed chair. I just hope it's not personal. I hope it's not saying I can't be perceived to be giving into pressure from the White House. So I'm not going to do it because they had two officers say, I don't agree with leaving things unchanged? Well, I think there's a balance, right?

I think there is a balance of necessity for independence. And I don't think anybody disagrees

with that on both sides of the house. I think the real challenge is that when you talk to

business leaders that are really driving the economy, that are hiring people, that are borrowing

money, that are spending money on cap X, they will all tell you that they're in a wait-and-see mode. And the wait-and-c mode isn't about tariffs. We understand generally what that tariff scope is. We just heard Jamie Diamond talk about it. And so for most businesses, it's going to be slightly impactful, and the absorption will happen the the benefit of interest rates being

lower is that it frees up cash flow for a lot of companies gives them the comfort that they can

spend some money on hiring people on growing people aren't doing any of that right now so yeah so that

you're not doing it you're not letting people go and you're not hiring them right i'm in this in this really weird zone. And so I look at the businesses that I have. I just, you know, we have bed bath

and beyond. We opened our first store yesterday and we're hiring people. I look at my camping

world business. My numbers are off the charts. But I'm in this really frozen zone where because

interest rates affect my P&L so much, without that relief, I'm scared to buy

stores, open stores, or hire people. And that's a big problem when you're 30% of the market.

And you're revitalizing Bedbeth Mion, right? We are. So I took over overstock. Many people

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