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I'm Rebecca LaVoy and this is crime writers on the podcast about other podcasts and also about true crime pop culture journalism and this week will have a listen to

Philonius Florida a new podcast looking at a some of South Florida's most interesting crimes also will tune into the new TV show with OJ prosecutor Marsha Clark reinvestigating some famous murders joining me to dive into that is my true crime call for real

I'm a live husband Kevin Flynn hello Kevin sup girl.

You made that weird so quickly.

It'd be weird we're sleeping together also with the you're sleeping with me.

Listen we had enough sexy people last.

All I know is that there's a dog's living between us most nights and that may or may not be intentional on my part.

And also joining me is journalist true crime author licensed private investigator for my defense investigator and certified maybe like double certified cat lady Laura brick or hello.

Hello I am triple certified cat lady and yes when I saw the photo of which dog was it that was sleeping between you guys.

Stewart yeah.

I was like I can't say anything because our new kittens Felix and Rocky well they're not kittens anymore they're almost like a year old.

They like to actually sleep under the covers on the bed.

Yeah it's very odd like I'm afraid they're going to get suffocated but they get right down there and just they want to be tucked in on those Brooklyn and she's large question.

Rocky yes like I know that like your son named one of your cats but Rocky can we just like pretend it's an homage to Rocky Flintstone please.

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