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The Playbook Podcast

March 21, 2025: The Musk Factor

The Playbook Podcast

POLITICO

Government, Daily News, News, Politics

3.9699 Ratings

🗓️ 21 March 2025

⏱️ 8 minutes

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Summary

Democrats want to talk about Elon Musk. Whether voters want to hear that is another question — and one we may get an answer to very soon. In Wisconsin, an April 1 state supreme court race offers a test run of Dems’ new Musk-centric campaign strategy. If it works, you can probably expect to see them use that Playbook in the 2026 campaign. If it doesn’t? Well, then the party may just be as lost as ever. National politics editor David Siders joins Playbook deputy editor Zack Stanton to dig into it. Plus, Sen. Bernie Sanders and Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez head west on a “Fighting Oligarchy” tour.

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0:00.0

Presented by BP.

0:05.7

Good morning, everyone. I'm Playbook Deputy Editor Zach Stanton. It's Friday, March 21st,

0:10.9

and here's what's driving the day. President Donald Trump may continue to occupy center stage

0:15.4

in Washington, but much of the conversation today is about Democrats. There are any number

0:19.8

of cliches floating around about the

0:21.5

dire straits in which the party finds itself, that they're in the wilderness, that they're looking

0:26.1

for a foothold, that they're grasping at straws. Take your pick. But if you move beyond those

0:31.2

cliches, there are genuinely new and interesting things going on in the party as it battles

0:36.2

over the best path forward.

0:38.8

Right now, Senator Bernie Sanders and Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez are on a

0:43.8

multi-state trip as part of Sanders' fighting oligarchy to her. They rallied in Las Vegas and

0:49.0

Tempe, Arizona last night, have two stops in Arizona today, and then go on to Tucson tomorrow. And the reality

0:56.3

they're encountering offers a pretty good pulse check for the mood of the Democratic base at this

1:00.9

moment in time. There's what Bernie Sanders and AOC want to be talking about, which is hammering

1:05.8

Trump and his advisor Elon Musk for, they say, prioritizing billionaires over working-class Americans. And there's

1:12.7

what the Democratic base is actually riled up about at this moment, which is, yes, Musk, but also

1:18.1

they're angry at Chuck Schumer, the Senate minority leader, for not shutting down the government

1:23.2

by blocking the House Republican-backed CR last weekend. In fact, the ire directed at Schumer is so potent that it could be actually a symbol

1:30.8

of a larger Tea Party-style revolt against the party's leadership class, as Laxia Jane writes

1:36.1

this morning for Politico magazine.

1:38.7

And that, of course, risks distracting from what the party would much prefer to be talking

1:42.9

about right now, which is Elon Musk.

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