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Reflections of History

March 13th: LBJ Meets With George Wallace

Reflections of History

Audacy Podcasts | Shining City Audio

Society & Culture, History

4.61.9K Ratings

🗓️ 13 March 2023

⏱️ 6 minutes

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On March 13, 1965, LBJ meets with Alabama’s George Wallace. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Shining City Audio, a John Meacham and C-13 original studio.

0:30.0

March 13th 1965, LBJ meets with Alabama's George Wallace.

0:50.0

I'm John Meacham and this is Reflections of History.

1:00.0

I'm John Meacham and I'm John Meacham and C-13 original studio.

1:31.0

In the days after Bloody Sunday in Selma, President Johnson knew he needed to act.

1:42.0

Images from the attack at the Pettis Bridge have been broadcast.

1:45.0

ABC broke into the network premiere of Judgment at Nurember to show the footage.

1:50.0

But Johnson was careful to lash out a Governor George C. Wallace in the power structure

1:55.0

in Alabama too hard might create more problems than it would solve.

2:00.0

If I just send in federal troops with their big black boots, it will look like reconstruction all over again.

2:05.0

Johnson said privately,

2:07.0

I will lose every moderate, not just in Alabama, but all over the South.

2:11.0

Most Southern people don't like this violence.

2:14.0

They know deep in their hearts that things are going to change.

2:17.0

They may not like it, but they will accommodate.

2:20.0

But not if it looks like the Civil War all over again.

2:23.0

That will force them right into the arms of extremists and make a martyr of Wallace.

2:27.0

And that's not going to help the Negroes to have to fight a war.

2:31.0

Unless we're going to occupy the South all over again.

2:34.0

I may have to send in troops, but not until I have to.

2:38.0

Not until everyone can see I had no other choice.

2:42.0

Working through Tennessee Governor Beaufort Ellington, Johnson got Wallace to agree to come to the White House for a meeting.

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