Really excited to have Mark Spears here on in just a second.

So I want to note that we recorded this earlier today before

Avery Bradley's comments, which we'll talk about later in the show,

came out where he laid out a little bit more of what the thinking is

for the group that is hesitant to play.

So we did not get a chance to discuss that,

but I think it's still a great conversation with Mark.

And then after that, I'll be on to talk about the news of the day,

the NBA's return to play.

Protocols, which I've got a lot of thoughts on and also a Bradley statement as well.

So here's Mark.

All right, I'm really excited to have on Mark Spears of the undefeated.

I've been one and a half in mind for a long time because we have some fun,

interesting and lightning discussions in the media room and thought it'd be a good time

to try to take those public a little bit.

And Mark's been doing some great work for the undefeated.

How are you doing, man?

I'm just trying to figure out the world, brother.

Good, good, good luck.

Not well, I mean, I think people have been reading you will probably

will be helped in that regard.

So I originally wanted to have you on to talk about how the NBA is doing on minority hiring,

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