Welcome to season 3 episode 21 of the Jordan B Peterson podcast. I'm Michaela Peterson, Jordan's daughter.

I hope you enjoy this episode of Maps of Meaning 6, Story and MetaStory Part 2.

If you guys haven't checked it out, I watched Jockel Willings podcast with Dad recently.

It wasn't a recent podcast and it goes from 28T, 26. Oh man, I don't know. Anyway, it was really fun and informative.

It had some nice stories my dad shared about working on the railway that I think you might enjoy.

I would highly recommend watching it. Also, if you haven't heard of Nicole Arbor and you're in need of some laughs,

I would recommend watching some of her videos. She's extremely funny and very sharp.

I hope you're doing well.

Season 3 episode 21, Maps of Meaning Part 6, Story and MetaStory Part 2, a Jordan B Peterson lecture.

So I guess the case that I was making last time, at least in part, was that you're one of one way of conceptualizing the fundamental problem.

That human beings face is to conceptualize it as an ongoing struggle with complexity.

And complexity emerges as a consequence of sort of finite boundedness of individual consciousness and incredible excess of the unbiased.

The unbounded everywhere else, even including underneath that consciousness, because of course your individual consciousness depends on the function or is related to the function of things that are so complex you can't even understand it.

So there you are, surrounded by some things that you understand in an ocean of things that you don't understand at all, including things about yourself.

It's not obvious at all how people solve that problem because in some sense it's not solvable the fact that you don't have the cognitive resources or the conceptual resources to understand everything that you need to understand in order to properly orient yourself in the world.

Now, obviously partly the way we deal with that is that we cooperate with other people. And so that radically multiplies our resources incredibly multiplies our resources.

And it's something to consider always when so much of the political dialogue that surrounds us now consists of a critique of cooperative societies and analysis of their oppressive nature.

And of course that's true because any cooperative system that specifies a certain endpoint and produces a value hierarchy of some sort also simultaneously forces things into that value system.

And then rank orders people according to the value structure. And so there's an oppressive element to it but compared to being naked in chaos generally it's better.

Now it doesn't always have to be because it can get murderous but generally speaking well look we're social animals it doesn't matter.

Our evolutionary pathway has already taken us here and so we're individuals but we're unbelievably social and so that's that.

So as far as I can tell we'd have to be completely different creatures not to fall, not to take advantage of and fall prey to the problems with social being.

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