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Closing Bell

Manifest Space: Warfighting in the First Commercial Space War with General John “Jay” Raymond 8/15/24

Closing Bell

CNBC

News, Business

4.4139 Ratings

🗓️ 15 August 2024

⏱️ 23 minutes

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Summary

The U.S. Space Force was stood up in 2019 as the first new military service in over seventy years. Now, nearly five years since its establishment, the orbital battleground has shifted—towards what General Raymond calls the first commercial space war. Since retiring from active duty in 2022, General Raymond now serves as a senior managing director at Cerberus, and sits on the board of several space startups including Axiom Space and Impulse Space. He joins Morgan Brennan to discuss the risk of nuclear war in space, public-private partnerships and the state of the U.S. Space Force.

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The first commercial space war.

0:04.0

That's how General J Raymond, the former chief of space operations for the U.S.

0:08.8

Space Force, characterizes the conflict in Ukraine.

0:12.0

In the early 90s with characterizes the conflict in Ukraine.

0:13.8

In the early 90s with Operation Desert Storm,

0:16.2

which some view is the first space war

0:18.5

where we took strategic space capabilities

0:21.1

and integrated them into theater operations largely for the first time.

0:25.6

We saw the advantages that provide.

0:27.2

Well, I think others now have seen the advantages that that has provided us as well.

0:31.7

So in the case of Ukraine, Ukraine is not a space-fearing nation on its own, but it has been able

0:38.7

to leverage commercial space capabilities for its advantage.

0:43.2

You know, for example, they've been able to leverage Starlink

0:46.2

to stay connected across the globe.

0:48.3

They've been able to leverage commercial ISR satellites

0:52.3

to be able to have more awareness of the battle space.

0:56.0

They've been able to leverage GPS satellites that the whole world can leverage for free.

1:01.0

And so we have seen their use of commercial space providing them advantage.

1:05.8

And I would say that just as some people view Desert Storm as the first space war,

1:12.4

I would suggest that some will view... the first or the Ukraine conflict is the first

1:15.0

or the Ukraine conflict is the first commercial space war.

1:20.0

When the Space Force was established in 2019, General Raymond served as the new branch's first ever chief.

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