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Closing Bell

Manifest Space: Istari CEO Will Roper on Blue Origin’s moon dust battery and the infrastructure enabling it 12/3/25

Closing Bell

CNBC

News, Business

4.8118 Ratings

🗓️ 3 December 2025

⏱️ 22 minutes

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Summary

Morgan Brennan sits down with Will Roper, Istari CEO, on the latest episode of Manifest Space. They discuss the startup’s big news announced today: partnering with Blue Origin on making a moon dust battery – a device designed entirely with AI. They discuss Istari's "ground" infrastructure that lets AI innovate within guardrails, preventing hallucinations while maintaining creativity. Plus, why connecting data without consolidating it could transform aerospace and defense.

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0:00.0

Onstage at AWS Reinvent, Jeff Bezos' other company, Blue Origin, announcing a major

0:08.3

aerospace breakthrough.

0:10.2

A moon dust-powered battery that it hopes will keep spacecraft operating through lunar night.

0:15.4

The breakthrough though was how it was developed.

0:18.3

A space part that was completely designed by AI,

0:22.5

agentically designed.

0:24.5

And it seems like that's the main headline and it is.

0:27.9

But equal to what the AI did is what it didn't do.

0:32.1

It used the Astari infrastructure to guide the design.

0:37.2

And what that infrastructure does is put a set of guard

0:40.1

rails around the AI so that it can be creative on the inside and produce cool things, but

0:47.2

not go out of bounds where things like requirements or compliance, all those things that the lawyers

0:53.9

care about, where those are safely

0:56.2

out of bounds.

0:57.0

And so giving the AI a creative zone and a hallucination-free zone is equally the headline, because

1:05.8

it makes that part not just one that was made 75% faster than any of the parts Blue Origin has created in the

1:14.4

past, it makes it arguably one of the safest parts ever made in aerospace history.

1:20.5

Blue Origin partnered with a little-known startup, Ishtari Digital, founded by the Honorable Will Roper,

1:26.2

a former senior Pentagon official best known for

1:28.5

transforming the acquisition process at both the Air and Space Forces during the first

1:32.7

Trump presidency.

1:33.9

Ishtari, backed by former Google CEO Eric Schmidt, already works with the U.S. government, including

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