So general election days away. I'm very delighted to be joined by our next guest who is of course

Andrew Fines Stanley who is a former African National Congress member of Parliament obviously before before that, an anti-apartheid activist who

struggled alongside Nelson Mandela and other heroes of the anti-apartheid movement.

He's a campaigner against justice, of course against racism, as one

would expect. I've previously spoke to him about Israel's genocide in Gaza, but now he has a new struggle,

and that is his campaign as an independent

candidate against well not just against but he's the he's the he's the he's the

he's the sitting MP a certain Sir Kere stama in Hoban and St Pancras was a constituency just next to my one.

If I lived in that constituency, Carl's the table, I would vote for Andrew Finestown.

I think he's a man of huge integrity,

of compassion, humanity, solidarity, intelligence, someone who has knows what it's like to fight one of the most abhorrent regimes of our time

and struggled alongside so many of this who fought a great cost and great sacrifice to

overthrow the moral disgrace, abhorrence, the abhorrent regime that was apartheid

and has continued in that consistency to fight against all forms of oppression and injustice. So I would back either vote against all forms of oppression and injustice.

So I would vote for him in a heartbeat.

I've said throughout this that I would back

either vote Green in my own constituency

or independent, if they're brilliant independent

candidates standing or if they're a left-wing labour candidates like John

McDonnell and Salthana. So Angie, that's me, I put my cars on the table, how you doing?

Hi, thank you so much for them, lovely to be with you.

So some might say, what the hell are you doing?

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