Welcome to the game football podcast from The Times.

They only sing when they're fishing.

And my goodness, Grimsby Town reeled in a monster at Blundle Park on Wednesday night.

Manchester United were beaten by fourth tier opposition for the first time in the club's history.

After an epic 12, 11 penalty shootout that Ruben Amarim couldn't even bear to watch.

What next for United and their beleaguered head coach?

We'll be discussing the fallout from that humiliating result.

Plus, on Monday night, Liverpool's 16-year-old, Rio Ingamoa,

became the youngest scorer in the club's history

when he struck with virtually the last kick of the game

to snatch all three points against

10 man Newcastle United. The Alexander Isak saga loomed large over an emotionally charged

night at St James's Park and emotions boiled over for West Ham United's Jared Bohum too after

their cup exit at the hands of wolves. We'll be asking if West Ham and Graham Potter can turn

their awful start

to the season around before it's too late. I'm Gregor Robertson and joining me on today's show we have

the chief correspondent for the Times and Sunday Times Martin Samuel and the Times columnist

and former Chelsea Astinville and Millwall Stryker Tony Cascarino. Right guys, guys, only one place to start. One place. Boom, boom. There's only one. There's too many fish. Too many. Too many. Too many fish opportunities here. Pathetic United, humiliated by Grimsby and shootout epic is the headline on the Times website. pulling any punches no i'm afraid to say it's

fair oh absolutely it's fair that's the best team one to be deserved it yeah yeah the best team won

i mean but it's um very worrying i mean the whole thing from manchester united perspective i mean

if you just look at little vignettes in the penalty shootout.

The first thing that the manager can't watch it, I mean, it was bizarre, you know,

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