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I'm Maura Aaron Smiley, and this is The Anxious Achiever, the show that looks at the intersection of mental health and work and how we can all do both better.

Intention, the leadership tool we all need to use now.

Today, we'll have two conversations with leaders who are thinking about intentionality.

A bit later, we'll hear from Vivek Bapat of the Software and Technology Giant SAP about how he approaches work, why mental health is a key part of DEI,

and strategies and tricks he's learned in many years as an introvert like me about being a remote-based leader.

First, though, my conversation with Jackie Brassy.

She's a co-leader at the McKinsey Health Institute, an author of the book, Deliberate Calm,

How to Learn and Lead in a Volatile World.

She looks at adaptability, emotional flexibility,

and leadership resilience. Jackie studies how toxic leaders affect our anxiety, and in turn how

that anxiety shows up in our performance and in our office culture. Jackie's an anxious achiever

herself, whose own crisis of confidence has inspired her area of study.

Here's our conversation.

So just tell me quickly, you know, why is McKinsey invested in mental health?

I think every organization currently is invested in mental health.

And McKinsey is one of the many organizations that really look at what can we do for our own people,

but also for the organizations that we work with to help them become better.

And through the McKinsey Health Institute, which is an initiative by McKinsey,

but separate from McKinsey, which is a non-fegenerating institute.

One of the things we do is also research, the mental health and well-being.

And it turns out it's a very important aspect, of course, of employee, performance, productivity, etc., but also for

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