All right, welcome back to the podcast. I am joined with Dr. Michael Cummings, the

beloved Dr. Cummings, and we are going to be just hitting a bunch of different topics

on psychopharmacology. Dr. Cummings has been on multiple episodes and is well-known

internationally for his encyclopedic memory knowledge of everything psychopharmacology

and psychiatry. So welcome back to the podcast. Thank you. I'm happy to be back. For the

audience, Dr. Peter is being nice. He's essentially saying, I don't know when to shut up, but

yeah, it's not. We got to work on your punitive internal voice if that's what you think

is. Well, yeah, I mean, it's been good to continue to hear from you, and you're retiring.

I hear it's like your retirement is not as successful as you would like. Officially, I'm

now working two days a week. However, that somehow has become poor. So we'll see if we

can reduce that over time. I don't know how successful I'll be.

And then we have no conflicts of interest. It's unusual for someone at your position to

have no conflicts of interest. What is the what is the state connection that you're like

on the board of? I sit on a couple of advisory boards for the Department of General Services.

The business slash contracting arm of the state of California. And in order to sit on those

boards, because I do give the state direct advice about what to spend money on, they want

to be sure that I don't have any associations with anyone or anything that may be trying

to do business with the state or who might have an interest in influencing any of those

decisions. So indeed, once a year, they make me sign a non conflict agreement that basically

says that if I do engage in anything outside of a state agency that makes money, I have

to have it vetted through their legal department. Okay. Yeah. I really enjoy that you have

that connection. And I think that the audience does as well because it's like, we don't want

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