Making 'The Curious Case of Natalia Grace' with Showrunners Shannon Evangelista and Tim McConville - #191
Shaken and Disturbed
John Thrasher and Daryn Carp
4.6 • 549 Ratings
🗓️ 23 February 2025
⏱️ 37 minutes
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Summary
What sets these showrunners apart from other true crime experts is Shannon’s extensive legal background and real true crime experience, having served as a former Federal Criminal Defense Attorney and a prosecutor in both California and New York. With her deep knowledge of the law, she brings a unique perspective to true crime documentaries, combining legal insight with creative storytelling. She has been closely following these cases for years and has spent over four years working on her current series, providing a layered view of the stories from both a legal and creative standpoint.
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to Shake It and Disturbed, everyone. It is just Father God here today. Mother God is off doing, probably not sending the Christmas gift that he promised me months ago, as now we are well into February. But I'm going to take this one solo today because I am |
| 0:21.5 | really excited to talk to my guest today. We've got Shannon Evangelista here, as well as Tim McConvo. |
| 0:28.4 | Did I get that right, Tim? Yes. Okay, good. As long as I did, two of the geniuses, Tim was actually |
| 0:34.7 | the showrunner of the Curious Case of and the Curious Case of Natalia Grace. And Shannon Evangelista is one of the creators of this show. One of my favorite |
| 0:43.4 | shows, I've been watching Natalia Grace actually since it came out. As soon as those episodes |
| 0:47.0 | sit with the seasons, I definitely binge it. And then when you guys kind of did these six, |
| 0:51.8 | what could only be described as curious and weird cases on the curious |
| 0:56.1 | case of for ID and Max. Once you said cat cult, I was kind of just in it immediately. So welcome |
| 1:03.3 | to shaken and disturbed you too. I'm really excited to talk to you both. Thanks. Just one correction. |
| 1:08.2 | So Tim's show ran curious cases. But I and Natalia with Alexander Block, different person. Okay, we got two showrunners here. This is perfect. And just so I know, Shannon, before you kind of dove into the media aspect of all of this. You were a federal criminal defense attorney, |
| 1:29.7 | right? Specializing in organized crime. Is that correct? Yeah. So I got my starting out of law school. |
| 1:35.8 | I was, while I was in law school, I was in a clinic. So I sort of acted as a public defender in New Orleans. |
| 1:42.2 | I went to Tulane Law. And then after that, I went to New York |
| 1:46.3 | City. I did federal defense specializing and organized crime. And then I was a prosecutor in both |
| 1:54.0 | Orange County and Manhattan DA's office. And I specialized in narcotics. So I was in the special narcotics unit. |
| 2:03.4 | Just to pry a little bit about that former life of yours, |
| 2:07.1 | what do you prefer prosecution or defense? |
| 2:10.4 | I really like both. |
| 2:11.8 | I think like one of my strengths is like, you know, |
| 2:15.1 | I can really empathize with both sides of it, right? Yeah. You know, it's just kind of, you know, I can really empathize with both sides of it, right? |
| 2:19.3 | Yeah. |
| 2:19.4 | You know, it's just kind of, you know, I, I, there was a lot I loved about defense. |
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