Hey everybody it's Hoda Kopi from the Today Show I am so excited to share with you a

special preview of season four of my podcast Making Space. You're about to hear a clip of

my conversation with actor and spiritual explorer Rain Wilson. I hope you enjoy.

Hi Rain, I've got your book dog-eared with different colored thingies.

I know. The book is called Soul Boom and I'm so excited to talk to you. I sat with

Jenna after you guys were at the Aspen Ideas Fest and she said you've got to read the book soul boom now what made you decide to put this in writing to write this book

Well, that's a complicated question. Do you have some time? I have as much as you need this is your day well because there's there's no

really easy way to answer that question and it is really important I think there's

first of all for me there's a personal reason why I wrote Soul Boom which is I've had a lot of

mental health struggles through the years I've shared about this especially in my 20s I had really debilitating anxiety attacks.

I dealt with a lot of depression and and loneliness and alienation, addiction issues.

And back then in the 90s,

there, you know, therapy wasn't as ubiquitous

as it is today and there weren't you know really that many like self-help

books or podcasts or YouTube videos or places to turn to talk about mental health

and no one used the terms. No. Mental health in the 90s you just kind of like

sucked it up and got through it.

And so I had grown up a member of the Baha'i faith. My parents were Baha'is and the Baha'ai faith is very inclusive of all different faith

traditions so as a Bahai we read from the Quran and we read from the Bhagavah

Gita and the Bible and writings of the Buddha.

And so I grew up with this very kind of universalist approach to spiritual knowledge and wisdom

being out there in all of these different faith traditions.

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