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Bulwark Takes

MAGA Media Is Having A BREAKDOWN Over Pete Hegseth

Bulwark Takes

The Bulwark

Society & Culture, News Commentary, News, Politics

4.71.2K Ratings

🗓️ 24 April 2025

⏱️ 17 minutes

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Summary

Andrew Egger and Will Sommer break down the chaos surrounding Pete Hegseth’s Pentagon drama. From firings to leak accusations, conservative media is scrambling to control the narrative and turning on each other in the process.

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0:22.6

The mainstream media knows how it's covering the Pete Hegseth story. He's having a crazy time.

0:27.7

He's in over his head. The things are falling apart around him. His advisors are getting fired left

0:32.6

and right. Things are crazy at the Department of Defense. Conservative media, not quite so sure

0:37.2

how to wrap itself

0:39.8

around this story in such a way that it keeps cannons pointed in the correct direction, which is

0:44.1

at the enemies, whichever enemy, whichever particular conservative podcast or host or whatever,

0:49.3

has an ax to grind toward. We're going to talk about all of that. We're going to figure out

0:53.0

how conservative media is rallying around Pete Heggseth and agitating against his various enemies. Here to talk about it, Will, Summer, our great conservative media reporter, Will, what's going on? Pete Hegset, we all know he's having a bit of a hard time. We've talked about that a lot on his channel. How is this all kind of getting digested down at the level of right-wing media?

1:11.9

Yeah. I mean, so this is sort of a fascinating subplot for me that you mentioned the fired

1:15.9

aides. And so basically three kind of high-ranking officials last week in the defense department,

1:21.6

at least two of them were going to frog marched out by security. These are a long time Pete Hegsett,

1:26.2

associates, pals. and they were supposedly

1:29.3

ousted for leaking as part of this leak investigation. And so this has become this kind of like

1:35.8

big discussion point in conservative media. What did these guys do? Are they innocent? Are they

1:40.7

martyrs? Are they like sinister agents of the deep state, whatever. And so I

1:46.0

looked into this and there's sort of this interesting narrative that's broken out where Tucker

1:50.0

Carlson and Megan Kelly, who more or less politically, I think, are on the same page most of the

1:55.0

time, are now really at odds. Then three days ago, he was fired from the Pentagon.

2:03.3

But not for his views on Iran, no.

2:10.4

Dan Caldwell was fired because, reporters are told off the record, he had leaked classified documents to the media.

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