President Trump said his administration would release the Epstein files, but now he says those files are a hoax.

Make some noise if you care about the Jeffrey Epstein scandal.

Everybody cares. Trump adding, I don't want their support anymore.

MAGA has found its fault line from WNYC in New York. This is on the media. I'm Brooke Gladstone.

And I'm Michael Onger. But where's the line

between healthy skepticism and conspiracism? People who have engaged in conspiracy theories feel like

their theories have been vindicated and thus they are very excited. Plus, how the films of Michael

Douglas inadvertently trace the origins of today's masculinity

crisis. He became an avatar for these changes that men were going through, and it seems like

maybe it was a bit of a burden to act out an entire nation's sickness.

It's all coming up after this.

From WNYC in New York, this is on the media.

I'm Michael Lohinger.

And I'm Brooke Gladstone.

So at one point, we thought we really wouldn't have to go there,

or at least all the way there. But at this point, it thought we really wouldn't have to go there, or at least all the way there.

But at this point, it seems perversely contrarian not to, because in all our years of scrutinizing the MAGA movement,

we've never seen such division in its ranks.

Breaking news overnight about the Jeffrey Epstein files and the conspiracy theories officially being rejected.

So first, the chronology, which began on July 6th in the evening with an Axiose story,

but took off on the 7th when everyone else jumped in.

Overnight, the FBI and Justice Department releasing 11 hours of footage, they say,

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