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The Megyn Kelly Show

MAGA Demands More Epstein Transparency, and Epstein's Potential Intel Ties, with Ben Shapiro and Michael Shellenberger | Ep. 1107

The Megyn Kelly Show

SiriusXM

Society & Culture, News, News Commentary

4.632.8K Ratings

🗓️ 14 July 2025

⏱️ 102 minutes

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Summary

Megyn Kelly is joined by Ben Shapiro, author of "Lions and Scavengers," to discuss the latest fallout in the Jeffrey Epstein and Trump administration story, AG Pam Bondi’s mishandling of the Epstein files rollout, whether Dan Bongino will leave the Trump administration over the issue, the confusion about the leaked DOJ memo, what we actually know was contained in the FBI's Epstein files, whether the Trump administration needs to better explain the status and if they should release more information, whether Epstein was working with U.S. or Israeli intelligence, legitimate questions about Epstein's prison death, and more. Then Michael Shellenberger, founder of "Public" Substack, joins to discuss mounting pressure from Trump supporters in the MAGA movement for more Epstein transparency, the varying explanations for the way the Trump administration has handled the Epstein story for the past week, why the DOJ and FBI may be shifting their Epstein messaging, backlash over the supposed Epstein prison footage, new reporting that former President Biden only gave verbal approval on pardons, how his staff used the autopen without his direct oversight, how the Fauci pardon relates to COVID accountability, and more. Shapiro- https://www.dailywire.com/show/the-ben-shapiro-show Shellenberger- https://www.public.news/ Birch Gold: Text MK to 989898 and get your free info kit on gold Pique: Get 20% off your order plus a FREE frother & glass beaker with this exclusive link: https://piquelife.com/MEGYN ARMRA: go to https://tryarmra.com/MEGYN to get 30% off your first subscription order BeeKeeper's Naturals: Go to https://beekeepersnaturals.com/MEGYN or enter code MEGYN for 20% off your order

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Megan Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at New East.

0:12.1

Hey, everyone, I'm Megan Kelly. Welcome to the Megan Kelly Show and happy Monday. There is so much going on. I feel like we start every week that way, but it's true.

0:26.3

I was down in Florida this weekend speaking to the future of the conservative movement at the Turning Point USA Student Action Summit. We'll play a clip from that later. But one of the big topics

0:32.1

of the weekend, not just from my conversation with Charlie Kirk, but from the young people in

0:37.1

that audience and virtually

0:38.4

every presenter was Jeffrey Epstein. It was one week ago today. We were talking about that leaked

0:45.2

DOJ FBI memo that was dropped in an Axios report. And here we are a week later. This story's

0:53.1

far from over. I think the DOJ hoped they would put this thing to bed with that memo. This story is far from over.

0:56.9

I think the DOJ hoped they would put this thing to bed with that memo.

0:58.4

Clearly, it hasn't happened.

1:03.4

Conservatives are up in arms over this thing, not all, but most, I'd say. And certainly all the young people at that turning point event.

1:07.3

And now the liberals have kind of finally looked over at the other side of the aisle and said,

1:13.1

maybe we're into Epstein too.

1:15.2

You know, we're into Epstein after for years just dismissing it as a conspiracy theory,

1:19.5

now that they think it can hurt Trump, suddenly they're expressing interest.

1:22.8

It's such bullshit.

1:24.7

It's like, look, this has never been my main story. As you know, we've covered it over the

1:29.5

years as news has been made. But like, let's not be so nakedly political over the molestation

1:35.5

of little girls. Fuck these Johnny Come Lately's who just want to use it as a battering ram over

1:40.8

Trump politically. It's such bullshit. All right. We'll get into that. Plus some wild

1:46.0

new details about former President Biden's use of the auto pen. He doesn't, he wasn't there.

1:51.8

I'm sorry. It was like an oral authorization. Maybe that his staff then put into writing

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