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agent. I currently a fellow at Lawfare and wanted to talk to him about, it's been a rough

48 hours for Cash Patel, our current FBI director. I wanted to get his perspective on that.

Mike, you are on the podcast after, how should we say,

you got resigned, a gently pushed towards resignation. Anyway, a couple of months ago, and we talked

about that. Folks can go listen to that full interview. We'll put a link in the show notes here.

But for people who missed it, maybe just give him the elevator pitch on your story and how you ended up

outside the FBI and on this here YouTube channel.

Of course. It's not really a unique story at this point in the administration, but essentially

Dan Bonjino somehow discovered that I was friends with a former FBI counterintelligence

official, Pete Strzok, who as most people know, ended up inadvertently

becoming a very public critic of Donald Trump. Once this was discovered, in short order,

it was relayed to me by my special agent in charge, Dominique Evans, that I would not be receiving a number of

promotions I was in for, that I should probably steal myself to actually get demoted,

and at the very least, I would be subject to polygraphs probing the nature of my relationship

with Pete. As much as I love the fiction of Orwell and the films of Terry Gilliam,

this was not something I wanted to put myself through. And I was in all candor pretty

concerned about a lot of the changes that were happening at the FBI under Patel and Bonino

to begin with. So I made the decision that while I'm a little bit glib about it now,

was and is still pretty heartbreaking for me to leave the organization. Yeah. And one of the

things we talked about when we first talked to is like, you know, the loss of expertise and you're not

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