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Mafia States of America | Episode 9 - "The Mob Today"

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🗓️ 15 November 2025

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

Sammy Gravano and Michael Franzese break down what is left of the American mafia, how the rackets changed, and who could survive in the life today.

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0:00.0

Previously on Mafia States of America.

0:19.0

I did something similar with John.

0:22.8

I wish I had the opportunity

0:24.4

to know what he had done

0:26.4

when we were on the street.

0:29.2

I never would have cooperated.

0:30.6

I would have killed him.

0:31.7

I consider myself a legitimate person right now,

0:35.2

but if somebody were to go after my family, I'm Kosoostro again.

0:39.3

I wouldn't get satisfaction of them going to prison. I would want to kill them myself.

0:44.3

With the Sicilian mafia, I think killing the judges really hurt them a lot, and the way they killed them was just savage.

0:53.3

America's weak. And the way they killed him was just savage. America sweet, America

1:01.0

Blackshed is on me. He cried that he be better from sea to shine in sea to shine You know, they'd be ready They should

1:30.3

To shine and see adapted with the time. They should have changed, made more people, didn't have to be Italian.

1:46.0

I don't think that would have made a difference of anything. The old mafiosas, they didn't rat.

1:50.0

Again, fairness to them, they only had to spend a couple of years in jail.

1:55.0

But when you're facing 40 years and they closed that door on you.

2:10.6

The mob then versus the mop today. Does the mob still exist today in America the way that in the 80s or is it dramatically different?

2:16.6

Dramatically different.

2:18.3

Are there any big earners today?

2:21.3

Anybody making real money today?

2:23.3

Any rackets that they're capitalizing where they're making 10-20 a year?

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