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Well, actually we used to have

a group of people we used to get together once in a while Zimbabweans and

you know study matters back at home and see how things are and I think when I was a student between

1990 you won and 90 in 1991 and 1998

I think what happened is at that time, you know things were still calm, you know people

there was not this labeling and all of that if you asked me what a madhali was at the time I wouldn't even know

because I was even you know to be honest with you I it was something

I'm just being brutally honest, you know

if you asked me so many other things there we they weren't even an issue at the time we were really concerned about

expanding learning understanding

You know one of my favorites is shiqab al-Masihl Abba to this day I have a good, you know

rapport and

There are other masyaikh as well and you know people try and label you based on who's the shiq and that's the reason why I always say

You know try to go back to qal'Allah who a qal'Allah Rasul in in reality when I when you call out to people when you're calling

People towards Allah and if you were to quote your shiqs

Whatever said you belong to you already discouraging people because they want to hear what Allah in his Rasul have said

I'm not saying it's wrong

You know people might say oh, you know you got to quote your shiq but you know to be very fair who are you calling?

Are you preaching to the preach or would you like to preach to people who perhaps you feel need a little bit of

Of love care and tapping before they would actually understand what the deen is all about so there is a lot

There's a lot of wisdom

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