This is CBS I of the World. I'm John Bachelor. Sophie Petter is the author of Revolution

François, the quest to re-invent a nation. This is a manual Macron's political biography.

We've spent moments with his childhood and his beloved drama teacher who becomes his

beloved wife, the first lady of France now. But it's important to identify where he learns

politics and how he interprets that today. He found a party in April of 2016 called

Unmarsh on the move. And he found it by going back to Amian. And there's a moment that

it's clear in Sophie's book. Nobody's quite inspired by why he goes to Amian. He has

no relationship with it. Well, he left Amian when he was 17 years old, I believe, and

went off to finish his school, his back in Paris. But then he was interested in becoming

a literature, not a politician whatsoever. And so, this is another one of those moments

where you speculate in the book. He could have been the novelist that he wants to be.

He's written three novels that he won't show to anybody but Brigitte. He's extremely

well-educated in French literature and international literature. But he fails to get into the school

where all the literary superstars of France go. Instead, he gets into science po. What is

science po to the French? Sort of humanities university, which is very selective and seen

as a stepping stone to moving on to a postgraduate, top postgraduate schools in France. So Paris

based quite a very selective and a stepping stone to certainly to political life as well

as many other things. He had a year prepping and he took the test to be a literary man twice

and failed it. But he gets into science po. He's a gifted, a prodigiously gifted reader.

He goes very fast and he will emphasize how he learns fast. What does he remember about

science po that directed him into politics? Does he have a moment at that or was that

later? I don't think that his political path was set out at that point. I think, again,

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