Hello, I'm Catherine Carr, producer of talking politics. This is the penultimate episode in our series, history of ideas.

Today David discusses Catherine McKinnon's radical feminist critique of the whole basis of modern political thought.

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We're coming to the end of this series of talks. We're coming to the end of this series of talks.

There's one more after this one.

But before we get there, I do want to go back to the beginning briefly,

not all the way back to Hobbs. I probably said enough about Hobbs and I'm going to say a little bit more about him today.

But back to the second author that I talked about,

Mary Wollstonecraft and a vindication of the rights of women.

It's probably the book that I've discussed that I like best. It's the most human of all the pieces of

writing that I've been talking about. I am a little obsessed with Hobbes' Leviathan, but I'm aware that it is a bit of an inhuman book.

It's probably one step away from science fiction,

whereas Mary Wollstonecraft, as I said, is just one step away from Jane Austin. But Mary

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