You're listening to live courtroom coverage of the trial of Karen Reed from the Hidden

Killers podcast and True Crime Today. Now, back to the courtroom.

Thank you. Each one of those pegs represents 10 feet.

You can't place that car where it wasn't front of fair view.

You just can't.

The data doesn't tell you that, but that tells you the movements of that car.

Now, as John O'Keefe sadly lays on the ground, abandoned,

you're gonna have to ask yourself a question

for charge number three, leaving seen,

knowing somebody was injured and then died.

You're gonna have to ask yourself,

is there evidence that Ms. Reid knew that she had hit him?

Don't need to prove it for murder two.

Don't need to prove it.

O you why a manslaughter, but for the third charge,

Carmel has to prove beyond reason,

without she knew she hit him.

We weren't there, but there was an eyewitness.

There was a guide.

And that eyewitness tells us that she knew.

And that eyewitness is Karen that she knew. That eyewitness is Carrie herself.

She tells you that she knew.

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