J.D. in the Duffel bag podcast with back again, yeah?

And you know what, I feel like this has kind of been a long time coming, you know?

100%.

I feel like it has been that over a period of time I started to feel like I wanted to have

a conversation with you.

Vice versa, I would say.

I feel like you're a very intelligent person.

Yes.

And I feel like, you know, I can gain a lot of knowledge from having a chat with you.

I feel like I can gain something from you.

I've got M-Hunter with me by the way for people who are listening.

Now I feel like I can gain a lot from you or like people can gain a lot from you.

One thing I've noticed actually, yeah, you seem like you've got a decent business acumen.

Like, you know, you have like a certain mindset when it comes to what is that you're doing,

which is, which surprises me.

If I'm being honest, it surprises me.

Where does that come from?

It just comes from going up, going down, going up, going down and finding the flaws and, you know,

stuff that I used to do prior to music.

You know, when you've got something that's not really going right, you have to literally look at every aspect of it.

Yeah.

You know, let's just say music, for example, is management doing their job.

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