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Trust Me: Cults, Extreme Belief, and Manipulation

Lynn Short - The New Gnostic Society, Sexual Alchemy, & Lucid Dreaming

Trust Me: Cults, Extreme Belief, and Manipulation

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True Crime, Talk Radio, Comedy, Society & Culture

4.4 • 1.9K Ratings

🗓️ 6 April 2022

⏱️ 79 minutes

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Summary

Episode 72: Lynn Short, former member of the Armageddon cult the New Gnostic Society, shares how her relationship drew her to the group, the belief that their original guru was resurrected, working as a missionary, doomsday predictions, their use of lucid dreaming and withholding orgasms, what Lynn describes as "spiritualized depression," and the nails in the coffin for leaving. SUPPORT LOLA'S FILM: bit.ly/pruningfilm   If you have your own story about cults, high-control groups, manipulation, or abuse of power, shoot us an email at [email protected]. FOLLOW US ON INSTAGRAM: @trustmepodcast @oohlalola @vibehigherbitch OR TWITTER: @trustmecultpod @ohlalola

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0:00.0

If you have your own story of being in a cult or a high control group, or if you've had an experience with manipulation or abuse of power you'd like to share, she doesn't email it. Trust me, pod at gmail.com.

0:19.0

If you think that one person has all the answers, don't!

0:23.0

Welcome to Trust Me, the podcast about cults, extreme belief, and the abuse of power from two lucid dreamers who've actually experienced it, I'm Lola Blanc.

0:31.0

And I'm Megan Elizabeth.

0:32.0

And today our guest is Lynn Short, she's a former member of a group called the New Nostek Society, an Armageddon cult with a mishmash of beliefs from different religions.

0:40.0

So we're gonna talk about how the man she was in love with introduced her to this group that emphasized lucid dreaming and withholding your orgasms to collect your spiritual energy and the shame that became attached to sex as a result.

0:50.0

She'll also tell us about the group's original Guru Samayal, whom they referred to as master, what happened to the group after he died, and how she became not just a member but a missionary.

1:00.0

Plus the idea of spiritualizing depression and what led to her finally leaving the group.

1:05.0

Yes, yes, yes, I said this already in the interview, but surprise I'd never heard of this group before, it sounds their beliefs are just super, super interesting.

1:13.0

I would have imagined, but yeah, I'm so glad we got to talk to Lynn, you guys, it's a really good interview.

1:17.0

If I don't say so myself, because of her, because of her, not us, because of her.

1:22.0

Megan, what's your call to you staying up the week?

1:26.0

Oh my gosh, okay, I'm reading in the news that these girls and Vermont, they're in college, they're on the rugby team.

1:33.0

Just got hazed so badly, it's nexium level, Lola.

1:38.0

I didn't click on it yet, so tell me about it.

1:40.0

They're getting branded with lighters and like weird metal shit, they water boarded a girl.

1:47.0

Oh my god, water boarded someone to be on the fucking rugby team, dude.

1:53.0

And then the fact that this girl is like talking to the police, she's getting shamed and shunned and you want to play rugby, so you have to get water boarded and branded.

2:03.0

Makes you a better athlete.

2:04.0

Yeah, so we are desperately looking for people who had to go through some sort of hazing, we would love to talk to you.

2:12.0

Seriously, it can be anonymously, whatever you want, but if you had to go through something like that, I would love to talk to you.

2:19.0

Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a thing, it's happening and for some reason we have not been able to find anyone.

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