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At first glance, it would appear that Lutheran and Reformed theologians have one thing that they can

completely agree on, and that is Scripture and its authority at first glance. But if you

dig a little bit deeper, and over the long history of those two

streams of the Reformation, people have dug a little deeper, you will discover what Martin Luther

discovered when he was dealing with the early reformed theologians. It's not just a different

view of the sacraments. It's at the heart, a different view of Scripture, too. Welcome back to Issues Cedar. I'm Todd Wilkin.

Joining us to talk about Lutheran and Reformed Views on Scripture, Dr. John Bombarrow,

he's senior pastor at St. James Lutheran Church in Lafayette, Indiana,

an author of a column titled Lutherans and Reformed on Scriptural Authority.

Do we understand in the same way? John, welcome back.

It's nice to be with you, Todd. When and probably most importantly, why, did Martin Luther's

position on scriptural loan solidify for him? The when is pretty easy. We can pin it right on the 1519 Leipzig disputation that Luther had

with the Church of Rome embassy, Johann Eck, who was a great theologian of his day.

And why it happened was Luther was kind of manipulated into making a concession. And so he did. He makes this

candid disclosure as to why he contested indulgences and even papal authority itself.

So by all the accounts of what happened there, Beck, who was a very experienced debater,

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