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Hi, welcome to a Ludo-Nair-Con fireside chat was Allered Nelson Jr, head of Strange

Scaphol, director on El Paso elsewhere, and a writer of many, many other things. From Rem Remap I'm Rob Zachney and

Zalvier I'm happy to be sitting down and chatting with you today.

It's a delight to be sitting and chatting with you Rob.

So I guess there's a few places to start this off but I was thinking before our conversation

about you know when I was sort of when I was a kid growing up and thinking about like wouldn't it be cool to work in

video games and well I found coding murderously boring I don't know if that's been your

experience or you know where your chops are at with that but that was my first hurdle

for like hey

why aren't you in game dev people are like you should learn see start with

basic though and I was like I would rather I would rather be beaten with sticks

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