Hello and welcome to The Rundown, a podcast from Politics Home.

I'm your host, Alan Tollus, and for the next in our summer series of one-on-one discussions with interesting people in around politics,

we have Luciana Berger, the former Labour MP and shadow minister who quit Labour Party of anti-Semitism in 2019,

but returned early this year saying it turned a significant corner under Kirstarmer's leadership.

I want to start by asking you about how you kind of got into politics. Your great uncle,

was Mani Shinwell, the Labour MP for CM, infamous for being the last person to throw a punch

in the Commons Chamber Chamber and rightly so after

the Conservative MP Rott Bauer made an anti-Semitic remark. Did he that have an influence on

you? How did you kind of get into politics in the first place? I grew up knowing all about the family

history and the heritage, but I didn't go up with politics in my kind of immediate family.

I just knew about the background.

You didn't dream of throwing any punches in the Commons Chamber? He certainly did not dream of throwing any punches.

But yeah, so that incident happened in response to a then conservative MP telling

Manichanil to go back to Poland.

So in the wake of those remarks, he crossed the floor and threw what

is believed to be in the last punch in the chamber of the House of Commons. Obviously,

don't condone physical violence. But certainly I was inspired by his fight, if we can call it

that, against racism and anti-Semitism, which I obviously ended up taking forward myself.

But no, I didn't grow up with politics.

I came to it when I got to university, got very involved in the student movement and in

student politics.

I very involved on the national executive of NUS.

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