From the ACLU, this is at Liberty.

I'm Kendall Seasmeyer, your host.

Louisiana State Penitentiary, also known as Angola Prison, is the largest maximum security adult prison in the U.S.

Angola is the perfect symbol for the criminal legal system's ongoing legacy of racism.

It's transformed from a slave plantation to a camp for mostly black laborers exploited by convict leasing,

all before becoming a prison.

For over a century, Angola has been a site of human rights abuses,

which continued to this day. This fall, a new chapter of horror began on its grounds,

the detention of children in the same cell block that once held incarcerated people awaiting the death penalty.

In August, the ACLU and partner organizations filed a class action lawsuit, Alex A. versus Edwards,

seeking to block the transfer of children to Angola.

The lawsuit is pending, and in October, the state began moving children as

young as 14 into Angola, a move that violates both state and federal laws. Here to talk to us about

how we got here and how the ACLU and community partners are continuing to fight the avoidable

and unconstitutional detention of children in Angola are Gina Walmack,

executive director and co-founder of families and friends of Louisiana's incarcerated children,

and Tammy Gregg, deputy director of the ACLU's National Prison Project.

Gina, Tammy, thank you so much for joining us here today.

Thank you for having us.

Yes, thank you for having us.

So, Gina, I'd like to start with you.

You co-founded families and friends of Louisiana's incarcerated children in 2000.

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