Loss, Shame, and the Rise of the Right with Arlie Hochschild
Next Question with Katie Couric
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4.4 • 4.4K Ratings
🗓️ 5 December 2024
⏱️ 49 minutes
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Summary
Arlie Hochschild, a sociologist from Berkely, has spent a chunk of the last decade in ruby red areas of the United States. During that time she’s written two books: Strangers In Their Own Land (which was a finalist for the National Book Award in 2016) and now, Stolen Pride. Arlie interviewed dozens of people from Pike County, Kentucky–the whitest and second poorest district in the country–to better understand what’s happening in the rust belt and why those voters are so drawn to Donald Trump. In her view, it’s not just about the economy, trans rights, or climate change, but about loss, shame, and ultimately pride. Arlie invites us to open our minds and ears so we can learn about one another and begin to come together.
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| 0:17.7 | Hi, everyone. I'm Katie Couric, and this is next question. |
| 0:24.5 | Hi, everyone. Yes, dear listeners, it's exactly a month since the election. And as we know, |
| 0:31.7 | in many ways, it was a wake-up call, a lesson that when it comes to both sides in this country, |
| 0:37.2 | neither of us really get each other. |
| 0:39.9 | Arlie Hochschild, our guest today, teaches sociology at Berkeley. |
| 0:44.4 | Yeah, I know what you're thinking. |
| 0:46.0 | Katie's talking to another person inside that bubble of hers. |
| 0:49.9 | But that is not really the case, because for the past 10 years, Arley, who's the grandmother we all wish we had, by the way, has been traveling to Ruby Red communities to get a handle on what's really fueling the anger in our country. |
| 1:05.0 | For her first book on this topic, Strangers in Their Own Land, she headed to Lake Charles, Louisiana. Now, Pikeville, Kentucky, |
| 1:13.6 | in the heart of Appalachia, is the setting of her new book in this same genre, stolen pride, |
| 1:20.0 | loss, shame, and the rise of the right. Arley scales what she calls the empathy wall |
| 1:25.9 | and humanizes Americans in these communities so we can all better understand what is really happening in our divided country. |
| 1:39.4 | Arlie, hi. |
| 1:40.8 | Hey there. |
| 1:42.0 | Good to see. |
| 1:42.7 | I'm so excited to meet you and talk to you and thank you so much for doing this. |
| 1:48.5 | I don't know if you had a chance to watch my hour, but it's so weird. |
| 1:52.2 | Yes, you know, I didn't. |
| 1:53.6 | I just now saw it, but I look forward to seeing it on white anxiety. |
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