This is a true crime in real time update from True Crime Today and the Hidden Killers podcast.

It's a conversation that no child should ever have to have with their mother.

A conversation that Colby Ryan, the only surviving child of Lori Valo Daibel, decided to share with the world.

The phone call, posted on Colby's YouTube channel, is part of a much

larger, tragic story that has captivated the public for years. The disappearance and deaths of

Colby's younger siblings, Tiley Ryan and J.J. Vallow. What unfolds during the call is, frankly,

disturbing. It's a window into Lori's mind today, a glimpse at her

delusional belief system, and a painful look at how she's rationalized the horrors of what

happened. But it's also a portrait of a son grappling with the unthinkable, trying to understand

a mother who seems to have lost touch with reality while carrying the heavy burden of unimaginable loss.

The conversation is tense, filled with strange, almost surreal moments, where Laurie speaks as if she's on a different plane of understanding.

Her words are a blend of religious fervor, denial, and revisionist history.

As Colby listens, his frustration, heartbreak, and disbelief simmer just beneath the surface,

creating a stark contrast to Laurie's detached, almost eerie calmness.

For those of us watching from the outside, it's hard to wrap our minds around

the scope of this tragedy. How could a mother, someone who should protect her children at all

costs, be connected to the deaths of her own kids, and how does someone like Colby, left to pick up

the pieces, even begin to cope with it all. Let's walk through this conversation,

unravel its layers, and explore the deeply troubling psychology of Lori Vallodei Bell,

as well as the emotional toll it's taken on her son. The phone call begins with Lori,

in her calm, almost casual tone, speaking to Colby as if they were

having a normal, everyday conversation. But from the start, it's clear that Colby has one

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