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The Rich Roll Podcast

Lori Gottlieb: Stories From A Therapist In Therapy

The Rich Roll Podcast

Rich Roll

Health & Fitness, Education, Self-improvement, Society & Culture

4.812.9K Ratings

🗓️ 2 September 2019

⏱️ 104 minutes

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Summary

Let's talk about talking to someone. Personally, I've been in and out of therapy for more than two decades. Over the last couple years, I've been deeply immersed in a weekly therapist-led men's group — intimate game-changing sessions that have helped me work through deep-seated stuff that lives and breathes beyond 12-step. We're only as sick as our secrets. The path to healing and personal growth requires openly sharing our hidden struggles. Bearing our vulnerabilities. And allowing others to identify the blind spots that elude us. My point is that we all need help. And as today's guest will openly admit, even therapists benefit from therapy. A Los Angeles-based psychotherapist, journalist and author, Lori Gottlieb writes the weekly ‘Dear Therapist’ column for The Atlantic. She contributes to several prominent publications including The New York Times. And she recurs as a mental health expert on a variety of national television and radio outlets including, The Today Show, Good Morning America, The CBS Early Show, Dr. Phil, CNN, and NPR’s ‘Fresh Air.' In addition, Lori is the author of three books: Marry Him,Stick Figure and her latest, Maybe You Should Talk to Someone, a fun and highly relatable romp behind the scenes of a therapist’s world. What it’s like to be a therapist. And what it’s like to be a therapist in therapy. A hit that spent many weeks on The New York Times bestseller list, the book was listed as People magazine’s ‘Book of the Week.' O magazine named it one of the ‘Best Nonfiction Books of 2019.' And it's currently being developed into a TV series with Eva Longoria. This is a conversation about what happens when a therapist — someone specifically trained to understand what makes people do what they do — experiences her own personal crisis. But it’s also a broader conversation about mental well-being in general. About the benefits of therapy. And why we can all better ourselves by talking to a professional. In addition, we discuss the psychological impact of comparing ourselves to others. Healthy and unhealthy parenting practices. Repairing ruptured relationships. And many other topics. I should note that I did my very best to resist making this a personal therapy session (not easy!). As a final thought: if you are struggling in the darkness, don't wait to talk to someone. If you're afraid to shed light on that thing — whether it be anger, shame, addiction, resentment, depression, anxiety, or suicidal thoughts — don't wait to talk to someone. Don't wait until it's a crisis. Find the courage. Reach out. raise your hand. Help awaits you. You can watch our entire conversation on YouTube. Enjoy! Rich Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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0:00.0

You know, I talk about that tension in the book between wanting your therapist to be a

0:06.1

human being who has life experience.

0:09.8

You know, nobody wants to go and talk to a robot or a brick wall.

0:13.2

But on the other hand, I think there's that tension because people want their therapist

0:17.4

to have worked everything out to kind of be ahead of them.

0:21.3

You have to really get to know somebody and sometimes you have to help them get to know

0:24.5

themselves.

0:26.2

You know, a lot of people come in and they think that they know themselves and they don't

0:30.3

necessarily know some key pieces of information about themselves.

0:34.9

You know, what makes them tick or how they're relating to people.

0:38.3

So that's really important.

0:39.3

And I think the other thing is sometimes it's a case of the person doesn't really know

0:42.7

him or herself very well, but sometimes it's a case of getting to unknow yourself.

0:47.1

Meaning you have this idea about yourself that is holding you back and you need to unknow

0:52.7

that because it's limiting you.

0:54.9

I always say to people, you need to compare yourself to yourself.

0:58.4

That, you know, where were you before and where have you come?

1:02.1

That's Laurie Gottlieb and this is the Retroll Podcast.

1:09.9

The Retroll Podcast.

1:19.5

Good people of Planet Earth, how you guys doing, what's happening?

1:21.9

My name is Retroll.

1:22.9

I am your host.

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