Welcome to Looking at Lucasfilm, the podcast with a different perspective on the world of Star Wars, Indiana Jones, and all the other entities that George Lucas, Kathleen Kennedy, Dave Follody, and John Favreau, and the rest of the team at Lucasfilm have dreamed up over the past 40 years.

I'm the entertainment writer Jim Hill, and my co-host Brian Goen and I are recording this on Sunday, August 21, 2022, and Brian, you just finished the most recent episodes of icons on Earth. Is that correct?

Yes, this is a very good series, and I don't know what's going to come next, but I know they're going to do a great job, but this was a different look at how Star Wars, you know, the whole movies and everything began because they focus more on George as a personality, and then his ex-wife, Marsha.

I think even he had said it one time, she was the heart of what the movies were, and she really, she gives a lot of interview about what's going on, the less episodes are about the prequels, and she does talk about them, and she says she was crazy about them because George had no one to really bounce it off of.

I kind of think she implied that she would have been able to help them and make them as great as everything that George has done, and it was kind of sad because you see these two people, and you get this feeling that they should still be together, and they gave us, yes, George Lucas is the genius who gave us what we wanted, but she was there from the beginning.

She was there from THX, she was there from American graffiti, and she was there through the Star Wars, and she was just, it's a great way to show other stuff of Star Wars, and it was a great series, and I can't recommend it enough.

Now, you've watched all of Light and Magic as well, which obviously comes at these films a little differently, it looks at the whole of what industrial-like magic accomplished over the many years, it's been working on the various Lucasfilm-related projects, but did you learn anything different about, say, the prequels from watching icons on Earth, versus light magic came at those two films more from how we pulled off the visual effects point, rather than the

storytelling and that sort of thing.

Well, you have to realize, too, with Light and Magic, it was done by a writer-director, and a writer more than anything, and he creates a story through the whole thing, where icons was just telling you this story,

because it could have been a regular movie, because that's the way he sets it up.

With the prequels, he doesn't get into it that much, because it's about Light and Magic, and once you talk about Jurassic Park, the other stuff is just icing on the cake, you see how they started from what Jurassic Park was, and got to a part where they shot all on green screen.

Now, they also got a little bit into the volume, which is what George has been wanting to do all his life, and it just makes me hope that George gets back on the seat to do, if not a Star Wars thing, something else using the volume.

Because, say what you may about him, the guy, he's one of these people, he's just like us, he's a geek, he reads comics, he reads about mythology, and he sees movies, and it all comes out in this brilliant, beautiful poetic, if you can say, a manner, and I would love to see him still create movies.

I think George is more interested these days in his museum of storytelling.

Yes.

It will be interesting to see what he takes on on the other side of a completion of that project.

It was supposed to open this year, but I heard that it's going to open either the first or the second quarter of next year.

So, as soon as I hear more about it, I do have some people who are kind of like on the inside, and I'll go over there, maybe take some pictures, because it looks like the exterior is completely done, and it looks like L.A. is being invaded by a giant spaceship.

I have to admit, I will be kind of intrigued to go from the Academy Museum to Lucas' Museum of Storytelling, because have you managed to make it up to the Walt Disney Family Museum yet?

Not yet, but I plan on if Devon needs another break or something, I'm going to pick him up and we'll go there, because we're dropping him off, maybe we'll have time to go up there this time too.

But they wanted to hit Figsur and the Monterey Bay Aquarium, so maybe we'll see if we can hit that.

There are wonderful things to see at the Walt Disney Family Museum, but at the same time, I feel like it was laid out by people who never made a museum before, and in a weird sort of way, it is so busy and so hands on.

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