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#LONDINIUM90AD: GAIUS & GERMANICUS SPECULATE HOW MUSK AS MARC ANTONY WILL CONTEND WITH VANCE AS OCTAVIAN. MICHAEL VLAHOS. FRIENDS OF HISTORY DEBATING SOCIETY. @MICHALIS_VLAHOS

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John Batchelor

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🗓️ 14 July 2025

⏱️ 17 minutes

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#LONDINIUM90AD: GAIUS & GERMANICUS SPECULATE HOW MUSK AS MARC ANTONY WILL CONTEND WITH VANCE AS OCTAVIAN. MICHAEL VLAHOS. FRIENDS OF HISTORY DEBATING SOCIETY. @MICHALIS_VLAHOS
1480 DEATHS OF ANTONY AND CLEOPATRA

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0:56.5

This is Friends of History Debating Society live from Lundinium, 91 AD, a summer's evening.

1:04.3

Germanicus is here. We're at the wine bar. The Centurions remain telling Whopper stories,

1:09.2

wonderful stories. We have a couple of stories to tell as well about how the British Empire,

1:15.8

inheriting the Roman Empire, maintained authority over a vast globe where communication

1:23.6

and transportation was extremely difficult and challenging and required high technology and a lot of patience.

1:31.5

We don't have any of that here in the American Empire, and yet we're not doing as effective a job as the British did once upon a time,

1:40.9

although there was the crack up of the American colonies. However, we turn to the

1:45.6

American colonies 250 years later, that's right now. We have an analogy that increasingly becomes

1:53.6

useful, which is the edible struggle. Elon Musk is the illegitimate son.

2:06.3

He is falling into the role of Mark Anthony, Caesar's master of the horse.

2:11.5

And Octavian, from out of nowhere, is the adopted son. In this case, Senator, now Vice President Vance, a younger man than Mark Antony, but nonetheless vivid and well-spoken,

2:26.0

and a resume of worthwhile and to be admired.

2:31.0

And then because Caesar's still with us, sort of, in the person of the president, it's not a direct analogy, it's a rough one.

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