#Londinium90AD: Gaius & Germanicus debate what Putin demands in addition to acknowledged victory in order to "halt the war." Michael Vlahos. Friends of History Debating Society. @Michalis_Vlahos
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🗓️ 25 December 2023
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https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/23/world/europe/putin-russia-ukraine-war-cease-fire.html
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| 0:00.0 | This is the Friends of History Debating Society. I am Gaius, John Bachelor, and Dramaticus, |
| 0:06.0 | Maglevilleus is here at year's end to stew over headlines that are highly suggestive. |
| 0:13.9 | I begin with the headlines out of the London Telegraph. |
| 0:17.4 | London Telegraph, why? |
| 0:18.9 | Because it has a pipeline right to the Ministry of Defence. and the Ministry of Defense in London is |
| 0:25.0 | wired into NATO as tightly as you can get. So the headlines out of the |
| 0:29.8 | telegraph, they may be accurate, they may be inaccurate, but they're what they believe at the moment at the |
| 0:35.4 | Ministry of Defense. That means Keith believes it, that means Washington |
| 0:39.7 | believes it. headline, Rishi Sunak, the Prime Minister, urged to stop dithering over Ukraine funding. |
| 0:47.0 | Former Defense Secretary's Ministry of Defense called on government to pledge at least another 2.3 billion pounds amid |
| 0:55.9 | concerns UK is holding back, keeps war efforts. |
| 1:00.2 | Another headline, Minister of Defence, Ukraine could recall men living abroad to boost battle-stricken |
| 1:07.4 | forces. |
| 1:09.3 | And now we turn to the Pentagon's conversation with New York Times reporters. This one is |
| 1:16.2 | surprising as well and Germanicus will help us understand it. Within these last hours, Putin quietly signals he is |
| 1:26.8 | open to a ceasefire in Ukraine. Despite its bravado and public, the Kremlin, writes the New York Times subhead, has indicated |
| 1:35.6 | its interest in striking a deal to halt the war so long as Russia could still declare a victory. |
| 1:44.0 | Dramaticus, I'm glad you're going to plunge into this thicket. |
| 1:48.0 | The Ministry of Defense says, |
| 1:50.0 | Sunak is dithering. |
| 1:52.0 | Keith says, weak is dithering. |
| 1:52.8 | Kief says, we're running out. |
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