This is the Friends of History Debating Society. I'm Gaias, John Bachelor, and I welcome

Germanica, Smog of Leos. Londonium, its fall, chili. The Thames is chili. The Centurions

were tired, and their wives have trundled onto home, to a hearth and home. We're sitting

with our cup of wine too late in the afternoon, but in an event we've got two wars to deal

with in the 21st century. We were exhausted by one. Now we've got two active wars, another

threatened every week in East Asia. In addition to that, we have complete discord among the

allies in NATO and EU, and a collapse of what you'd say was a vision of the liberal order.

The liberal order has been in place, goes the theory since 1945. The liberal order is another

way of saying the community of nations and another way of saying international law, the liberal

order. You will note that right now we're dealing with Ukraine first. However, no one else is.

Germanica is here to comment upon Ukraine, but I would say that of the newspapers that used to

cover Ukraine daily, we're now seeing facts left drift for 48 hours. For example, the telegraph

out of London. This is the best source I've been able to use since the beginning of the Ukraine

conflict. The Ministry of Defense has very good connections with the telegraph. It doesn't tell

secrets, of course not. There are no secrets, but it does indicate large themes. For 48 hours now,

we've had the same headlines in telegraph. For example, Russia executing disobedient soldiers

in a quote, and their source of that is the White House. For example, EU delivers only a third

of one million artillery shells promised to Ukraine, and the source of that is Keefe, or Russian

drones quote, explode near Ukrainian nuclear plant, and the source of that is Keefe, not remade

for 48 hours at least. The one that does have some confidence is the one where there was

quote, Russian fighter jets intercept US bombers. That I will account for. It sounds like it might

have happened. However, Germanicus. Ukraine is now no longer on the front burner. The back burner

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