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#Londinium90AD: Gaius & Germanicus debate the cruel yarns re Domitian. DomitianMichael Vlahos. Friends of History Debating Society. @Michalis_Vlahos

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🗓️ 14 October 2024

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#Londinium90AD: Gaius & Germanicus debate the cruel yarns re Domitian. DomitianMichael Vlahos. Friends of History Debating Society. @Michalis_Vlahos

1682 Londinium

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0:00.0

This is the Friends of History debating society.

0:02.2

Just a moment.

0:03.4

Germanicus and I are first century a d men and sometimes gravity gets us.

0:08.9

And we have an emperor now, Demission, who is the second son of Vespasian, who solved the year of four emperors.

0:17.0

Demission is no worthy dissented. He's a troubled young man.

0:25.0

Swetonius, a poet and historian, sometimes mostly a poet.

0:30.0

He, when in doubt, go for the good story.

0:34.0

Suetonius writes up the mission in a fashion that is all negative.

0:39.0

It is nothing whatever to recommend the mission in this telling.

0:45.0

Long afterwards.

0:47.0

Now there were good things to say.

0:49.0

One of them is he left us alone here in Londinium.

0:53.0

Germanicus, can you think of anything else to say about Suetonius?

0:56.5

I mean about Demission?

0:58.9

Because Suetonius would have it, would have it that we're just persecuted by his bleakness?

1:05.0

Well, we should never trust a Roman historian that Procopius was the same way when he wrote his history of Justinian and Theodora. These historians wanted to send a certain message and they had

1:31.2

perhaps emotional scores to settle, but it is kind of difficult to deal with some of the realities.

1:41.6

I mean, like this quote from Suetonius,

1:48.2

Demission put to death many senators

1:51.2

and amongst them several men of consular rank.

1:54.3

In this number, Kivikah Surialis, when he was per consul in Africa,

2:01.4

Salvadoran, or Phytis. Council in Africa, Salvadienus, Orphetus, Asilius, Glabrio and exile, under the pretense of their

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