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#Londinium90AD: Gaius and Germanicus ask if Kyiv survives without Zelensky? Michael Vlahos. Friends of History Debating Society.

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🗓️ 30 May 2023

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#Londinium90AD: Gaius and Germanicus ask if Kyiv survives without Zelensky? Michael Vlahos. Friends of History Debating Society.

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0:00.0

This is the Friends Vistory Debating Society. I'm John Bachelworth, my colleague, Germanicus, Mark of Laos,

0:06.0

where our special edition, it's a holiday here in Londonium, 91 AD.

0:12.0

And we're speculating about war ends because the stalemate in Ukraine is about to get violent,

0:19.0

and we don't know which way it's going to go.

0:22.0

So we're entertaining possibilities.

0:26.0

The Germanicists brought forward the war of rules that would be when cities were not profoundly involved,

0:35.0

and weapon systems had limited range.

0:38.0

The war of a regime change, that would be, for example, 1918, with its Tsar and his family,

0:47.0

abdicating a karenski failing and the regime changing entirely in a new direction,

0:54.0

which led to a civil war for several years in Russia and what emerged were the Bolsheviks, Soviet Union.

1:01.0

I'm entertaining a war which Michael describes his rounded dust. August of 1945,

1:09.0

the big six were running Japan into the end of time. They meant to die in place,

1:18.0

and they're bragging to each other when they met at the palace,

1:22.0

was that we're ready, along with 100 million Japanese, to fight to the death.

1:28.0

On the beaches in our homes, quite over the top statements, you can imagine.

1:35.0

Almost Hollywood-like, but they actually said, talk this way.

1:40.0

In order to do that, they needed a coup, because they were still made at 6'3-3.

1:46.0

Anami, the war minister, Umuz, Yumeizu, the head of army, Toyota, the head of Navy,

1:57.0

Suzuki, the prime minister, Togo, the foreign minister. They were deadlocked, 3-3.

2:03.0

And overthrowing the emperor and replacing them with the war minister, Anami,

2:08.0

was entertained those last hours. This is between the first bomb, Hiroshima, August 6th,

2:16.0

and the final surrender, which is 1415. Remember, there's a date line here.

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