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Thank you. Welcome to the Lions of Liberty podcast.

Here is your host, your guide, your shining beacon of liberty,

Mark Claire.

My guest today is a professor of history at the University of California, Irvine.

He's the author of several books, and most recently is the co-editor of one land, two states.

Israel and Palestine as parallel states. Mark Levine, welcome to the Lions of Liberty Podcast.

Thanks so much for having me.

Well, Mark, thank you for coming on the show today.

And I always like to get a little bit of background on my guest before I really get into the meat of things.

So if you could just give us a brief summary of your background, how did you come to be

involved in this project concerning the concept of parallel states as it relates

to the Israel and Palestine conflict?

Well, I've been involved in studying Israel-Palestine for 30 years since I was a teenager

and certainly in college when I went to college.

You know, I focused on comparative religion and Old Testament studies and biblical studies

and then moved on to studying

Arabic and just continued from there.

And then in graduate school, spent a lot of time in the country working on my research

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