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Welcome to the Lions of Liberty podcast.

Here is your host, your guide, your shining beacon of liberty,

Mark Clare.

Hey folks, welcome back to the Lions of Liberty podcast episode 72.

Before I get to today's guest, I want to take a second to let you know about health, excellence, select, an amazing alternative to ObamaCare, which utilizes health sharing to cover your medical costs.

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crony insurance company. To learn more, head to Lions of Liberty.com slash health. My guest today is the

development coordinator of the Drug Policy Alliance. James Carly, welcome to the Alliance of Liberty

podcast. Thanks a lot, Mark. It's great to be here.

Well, it's great to have you on, James, and the war on drugs is one of the most important issues,

I think, for me personally and for many libertarians, as it should be. So how did you first become interested in drug policy and the war on drugs? Well, you know, I was in high school,

and I saw my friends who were good people get persecuted and prosecuted for nonviolent drug law offenses and that struck me wrong.

And then fast forward a few years into the future, I was in graduate school for international relations and actually working over at the UN when a lot of the Latin American

countries started coming forward saying they wanted to discuss reforming drug policies and

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