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NFL. Bell. on Laker's podcast. I'm Anthony Erwin. I'm joined by Pete Zayas. Pete, we're actually, we're joined by LeBron again.

You, we were able to pull him aside from his post- Christmas festivities.

I'm really looking forward to asking a couple questions.

LeBron, first question, are we allowed to talk about Rajan Rondo at all?

No, no, he left. He walked away. One day, he'll actually come on here and answer a question. But you know, do you think people,

you had made the point in all seriousness about Vogel that maybe he had more power than

was led on or something like that.

And I just find it really hard to believe that Vogel is so incapable of picking up how obvious the Rondo minutes, how obviously bad the Rondo

minutes have been in clutch situations.

That I find it hard to believe that he's looking at that, looking at the data, looking at all that, and still saying, you know what, we're going to throw him back out there.

Yeah, I, first off, that game was a gigantic kick in the balls it was it like that's the most

irritated and upset I've been by a regular season game in a long time

even more than opening night, definitely more than the Milwaukee game.

But just, there were so many self-inflicted wounds that Rondo being one of them, but far from the only,

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