What is up everybody and welcome in to a very special edition of the Locked On Nuggets podcast.

I am your host, Adam Mades, and I am joined today by one of my favorite guests and my father's

favorite guest, Dr. Travis Heath, the associate professor psychology at Metro State and the

author, the speaker of a of a new TED talk, what would I say there?

Yeah, that's a good question.

Well, I authored it and then I spoke it, so I think both are okay.

So both are appropriate. A new speech which I'm going to link to in the description of the show I highly

encourage everybody to check it out it's titled self-care to communities of care and

it's going to sort of be the the first topic we talk about here that sets the stage

because I think one of the things I like about you,

Travis, is that we both, I think we think a lot in similar ways, not always like the same

conclusions, but we like to look at a specific topic and then try to understand all of the

different contexts, which is impossible. I mean, there's a million variables to every little tiny thing in the world, but that's

sort of, if I'm, I don't want to, you know, reduce this too much, but that's sort of one

of the things you're talking about, you're talking about mental health, but the giant

context, we always look at the individual, but there's all of these other contexts that go into a person's well-being and mental well-being.

Yeah, and I think my field has done a lot of good in the last century or so, but we also miss a lot.

You know, when we take something like depression and we just say, well, you're depressed, right?

And you need to sort of get out of your depression.

You need to think more positively or whatever it is.

It's like, that's fine.

That could be a contributing factor.

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