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Now, you mentioned the mini budget.

Did you ask yourself, is this politically deliverable? Yes. Yes, I do. Yes. I thought it was. Yes. I don't think it's true that I uprooted

the economic architecture. You suspended the OBR, you'd sacks the permanent secretary of a treasury.

The OBR weren't consulted about furlough announcements. They weren't consulted about public spending announcements, and there were no complaints at the time.

Did you know that your chancellor was going to promise even more tax cuts?

No.

What did you think when you heard that?

Well, I don't think it was particularly helpful, Fraser.

You also speak in the book about the effect on your family that being a number 10 had.

I was talking to my daughter this morning. She said nothing about this is normal.

Your own husband here warned you this would end in tears. Yeah, he did.

He didn't listen. No.

Opinion has been split in immigration amongst conservatives. In your book, you talk about it as a

problem. Have you always believed that the figures are too high?

I agreed with Suella that we needed to reduce them. We've seen the judiciary significantly

empowered by Blair's changes to the constitution. Take the Rwandan policy. It's not deliverable

because the courts have stopped it. So if the court stop it is not deliverable. I mean,

you can't wish for a world where the courts don't have these power.

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