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Living at Odds | 1. Two Partisans, One Corner

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Arts, Tv & Film, Music

4.42K Ratings

🗓️ 8 April 2025

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

Living at Odds is a new How To! series about what’s holding us together when so much threatens to break us apart. In our first episode, host Courtney Martin talks with two street vendors who operated rivaling merch tents at the same busy intersection during the 2024 election. Steve hawked MAGA caps and Trump-branded pool floaties just a few feet away from Sandra, who sweetened her sales of Harris-Walz campaign shirts with free “Kamala candy.” After so many weeks on the same street corner, the pair negotiated an easy friendship—and even talked about politics. Then came Election Day.   If you’re enjoying Living at Odds, check out these How To! episodes: How To Run for Office Without Being an A**hole and How To Talk Politics With Your Dad (Without Yelling) Pt 1 Do you have a problem that needs solving? Send us a note at [email protected] or leave us a voicemail at 646-495-4001 and we might have you on the show. Subscribe for free on Apple, Spotify or wherever you listen. This episode was produced by Maura Currie and Rosie Belson. Our technical director is Merritt Jacob and our supervising producer is Joel Meyer. Thank you to Sophie Summergrad for her help with this episode. Special thanks to The Hearthland Foundation, which provided funding for this series. Want more How To!? Subscribe to Slate Plus to unlock exclusive bonus episodes. Plus, you’ll access ad-free listening across all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe now on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of the How To! show page. Or, visit slate.com/howtoplus to get access wherever you listen. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello, it's Claudia. The piano is back, but that's not the only reason you're hearing my voice.

0:06.6

I wanted to share with you the music playing right now. Carol King, Tapestry. It takes me back to my

0:13.2

childhood because we listen to this all the time. I'm thinking 26 hours a day. Apologies,

0:19.1

that's not actually possible.

0:23.2

But this is the song of my childhood.

0:28.8

The piano on Channel 4 starts Sunday for 13th of April.

0:34.9

Adobe Express is the quick and easy Create Anything app.

0:41.3

It's taken my content to the next level, making it simple to create everything I need to promote my business. From Instagram and TikTok posts to logos and flyers, all in just a few clicks.

0:47.3

Build your brand with Adobe Express.

0:49.3

Search for Adobe Express to find out more and get the app for free.

0:53.3

Adobe Express, the quick and easy create anything app.

1:00.1

Hey there, it's Courtney Martin, host of Slate's How To Podcast.

1:04.6

For the next four weeks, you're going to hear something a little different in our podcast feed.

1:09.2

I'm hosting a series called Living at Odds about the moment

1:13.2

we as Americans are in right now, grappling with existential questions about our country

1:18.1

and navigating a huge political divide. So we'll talk to people who are living at odds with one

1:25.6

another, with their family legacy, and with the future. We hope you

1:30.5

enjoy it, and we'll be back with a regular how-to episode on May 6th. Here's the first episode

1:36.4

of Living at Odds. About five months before the 2024 election, a guy named Steve from Southern California went

1:49.0

looking for a spot to do business. All that he needed was a patch of sidewalk in a highly

1:54.8

visible spot in a neighborhood with a lot of traffic and a lot of Republicans. He found all of that and a lot more in North Tustin, California.

2:07.6

North Tustin is part of Orange County, a place that Ronald Reagan once said was where good Republicans go before they die. These days, this historically conservative

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