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Living and Reliving the U.S. Invasion of Iraq / Rasha Al Aqeedi

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4.9937 Ratings

🗓️ 10 April 2023

⏱️ 82 minutes

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Summary

After a tongue-twister of a Danish hangover cure, Chuck interviews Rasha Al Aqeedi about her New Lines Magazine article, "Living — and Reliving — the US Invasion of Iraq." Rasha Al Aqeedi, formerly a 2018-2019 Robert A. Fox Fellow in FPRI’s Middle East Program, is Managing Editor of Irfaa Sawtak (Raise Your Voice) and a researcher and analyst of contemporary Iraqi politics and political Islam. She is also a non-resident fellow of George Washington University’s Program on Extremism. Previously, Rasha was a researcher at the Al Mesbar Studies and Research Center in Dubai, and an analyst at Inside Iraqi Politics. Her work on Mosul and Sunni politics is frequently cited by The New York Times, Washington Post, AP and Buzzfeed. Rasha received an M.A. in Translation, a B.A. in Translation, and a B.A. in Computer Engineering from Mosul University. Check out Rasha's New Line Magazine article here: https://newlinesmag.com/first-person/living-and-reliving-the-us-invasion-of-iraq/

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0:00.0

Yeah, yeah. yeah. I can't guarantee you whatever. Especially if you like yourself.

0:23.0

There's none other than the ice

0:25.0

brand.

0:26.0

Are you guys?

0:28.0

Are you guys??

0:30.0

You're not. This is hell.

0:49.0

Another end of the world is possible. This is hell and our first guest this week.

0:58.2

May not have seen the end of the world, but she did see the end of Iraq, having lived there in the years leading up to the U.S. war on Iraq,

1:06.7

which began 20 years ago last month.

1:09.7

An Iraqi who lived in the United States, but her family moved back between the two U.S. Wars on Iraq.

1:15.9

When she was still school age, in Iraq's school system, she learned to love Saddam and see him

1:20.8

as a father figure, Baba Saddam.

1:23.0

She lived through the fear of a pending war that here in the U.S.

1:27.0

we were being told was absolutely necessary and completely unavoidable.

1:32.0

But we now know that it was not only unnecessary, but very avoidable.

1:37.0

She and most Iraqis saw Saddam's regime as that of a madman, but to Iraqis he of a madman.

1:43.0

But to Iraqis, he was their madman,

1:45.0

one they understood as their own.

1:47.0

As the phrase goes,

1:48.0

better the devil you know than the devil you don't.

1:51.0

She witnessed the collapse of the dictatorship

1:53.5

and in its wake the mass of looting,

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