Hey, friends, welcome back to another episode of Theology to Rah. My guest today is the one and only Lisa Harper.

Lisa is a world-renowned speaker and writer with over 30 years of church and parochurch ministry

leadership experience. She has a master's in theology from Covenant Theological Seminary and is

currently pursuing a doctorate in ministry from Denver Seminary. She co-hosts the very popular back-orch theology podcast and is the

author of several books, including her most recent book, A Jesus-shaped Life, how diving deeper into

theology can transform us and our world with the radical kindness of God. Oh, Nelly, you're going to

love this conversation.

As you'll see, if you haven't heard Lisa speak before, she is a very lively and, dare I say, very

raw and real and honest conversationalist.

And I just absolutely loved all that about her.

And I think you will too.

So please welcome to the show for the first time, the one and only, Lisa Harper.

Oh my word, Lisa Harper. I've been looking forward to this conversation and you are a very

persistently requested guest for Theology to Raw from people who support

the podcast.

That's all my cousins.

I sent out the emails to all my cousins and said, Theology and the Raw is my favorite

podcast in the history of time.

So, well, y'all just hit them up and your last name.

We, I can't thank you enough.

I told you off, Mike.

I don't listen to a lot of podcasts, just

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