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🗓️ 12 September 2022
⏱️ 37 minutes
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0:00.0 | It's Saturday, September the 10th, 2022, and welcome back to Goodfellows, a Hoover |
0:12.1 | Institution broadcast examining social, economic, political, and geopolitical concerns. |
0:17.1 | I'm Bill Whalen. I'm a Hoover Distinguished Policy Fellow. I'll be your moderator today. |
0:40.9 | As we're doing this early on a Saturday morning in California, this is something of a slimmed down version of Goodfellows. We're going to run for only about 30 minutes. And we're going to be shy one Goodfellow. Lieutenant General, HR McMaster, will not be joining us today. But we do have with us, the economist John Cochran, Hoover's senior fellow, Goodfellow's Regular, and what makes us a very special broadcast, joining us live from Kiev, Ukraine, |
0:45.1 | truly the international man of history. Goodfellow's Regular, Hoover Senior Fellow, Historian, |
0:46.3 | Neil Ferguson. Hello, Neil. |
0:48.3 | Good to be with you. |
0:54.8 | So, Neil, you've been in Kiev for about 36 hours now. You've been tracking this war for six and a half months as you're thinking changing it all now that you've been on the ground and had a chance to look around. |
0:59.8 | Yes. And it was changing even before I got here. I've arrived at a rather extraordinary moment in this |
1:08.7 | war. As we speak, it is becoming clear that Ukrainian forces have achieved a major success with their counteroffensive in the vicinity of Kharkiv. |
1:24.6 | The city of Izzyum has fallen. |
1:27.9 | The Russians have fled, it appears in some disarray. |
1:31.8 | And so we're beginning to see the first signs |
1:37.2 | that Ukraine's counteroffensive can meaningfully |
1:42.5 | push the Russians back. |
1:53.0 | What's fascinating though is how understated the Ukrainians are at this moment, when you might expect there to be jubilation, quite the reverse. |
1:58.0 | The messaging here is somber. |
2:01.6 | President Zelensky told us yesterday that there will be 90 days of a winter of discontent to get through. |
2:11.6 | He used that Shakespearean phrase. |
2:14.6 | The messaging from all his ministers and other government officials is strikingly sober. |
2:22.3 | They have understood the dangers of premature triumphalism. |
2:28.3 | And that impresses me almost as much as the news of success from the battlefield, |
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