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Welcome back to live at five point. This is volume two recorded at Steve's guitars in Carbon Dale, Colorado as a part of the five point film festival.

Last time we caught up with Frank Spethurst and Baby Champ, who were subjects of films in the festival.

If you haven't heard volume one, do so immediately.

For the second half of the show, we wanted to step behind the camera and peer over the shoulders of two incredible filmmakers Mickey Smith and Nick Wagner.

Just to give you a warning, this contains both adult language and topics.

It's only lightly edited to give you a sense of the feel of the show. You might even hear the pipes creaking and banging. Welcome.

Chances are you are one of the millions of people who have seen Mickey Smith's Dark Side of the Lens movie.

There's a reason this short video on surf photography and the Irish coast went viral. It gets right to the heart of creativity.

It's brilliantly shot and written. But beyond the technical accolades, the short film simultaneously radiates sadness and joy.

In this interview, Mickey discusses a life swimming among swell, his introduction to the Irish coast, loss, and a mischievous dolphin named Dusty.

So I live in County Clara on the west coast, south of a place called Le Hinch.

It's a real simple way of life. It changes with the winter. It's just empties out of people and it's just the people who live there.

A lot of those people are surfers nowadays because it's hard for anyone else to want to be there really.

Like in the summer it's all pure space really now. It's like pubs and traditional music going on everywhere and that kind of aspect of things.

Yeah, it's a real special part of the world really because the people are really salty on the earth types.

Really kind of like this place really walked down the street and people would be nice to you.

How's it going? We're doing it like blown away by everyone being friendly here.

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