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involves risk. Hello and welcome to Coffee House Shots. I'm Lucy Dunn and today I'm joined

by James Heel and Danny Shaw, former advisor to Yvette Cooper. It's a busy newsday today. There's been

an unexpected development in the Chegos

deal proceedings. New immigration figures have been published and David Gock's prison reform

plans have been published as well. James, we'll start, however, with Chegos. We knew the deal

to hand over the islands to Murchas would be in the news today, but things have taken a bit of a strange

twist this morning. Can you fill us in on what's been going on?

Sure. So this was a sort of series of stories that appeared yesterday suggesting that there was going to be the virtual handover signing to handover the Czechos Islands this afternoon. And then at 2.30 a.m. this morning, High Court injunction stopped that from going ahead. It's been blocked. All a bit embarrassing for the government. Obviously, critics have been the ones filling the void there and brandishing it as sort of a bit of a humiliation, etc. We wait to see what's going to come of it, but perhaps it's a case of live by the rule of law,

die by the rule of law. And talking about law, Danny, the architect of the government's sentencing

review, David Gok, has published his plans on prison reform today.

Can you tell us a little bit about what we know of his recommendations so far?

And what your thoughts? Did they go far enough?

Well, David Galk, the former Conservative Justice Secretary, has come up with a radical package of proposals to really relieve the pressures on prisons which are due

to run out of space without sort of fundamental reforms by spring next year. And his suggestions

essentially are a major shift from imprisonment to community sentences.

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