Welcome to this off-air special on Christmas Day.

I hope you're all right.

We've got a little something for you to pop between your ears now,

which we hope will delight and entertain.

Jane and I went to the Cheltenham Literature Festival back in October. Jane and I were delighted to welcome to the stage, Penny Lancaster,

to talk about her memoir, Someone Like Me. Now, whatever you might think of Penny Lancaster,

if you think that she might just be the wife of Rod Stewart, you'd be

very wrong. She is a supermodel, she is a campaigner, she's also a special constable, and in her

memoir she details how all the parts of her life have come together, but how painful some of those

experiences have also been.

Thank you very much indeed. Thank you for coming. Just a few little household things to go through.

I'm Jane Garvey. This is Fie Glover. We need to make that clear because when Penny comes on,

it'll be difficult for you to distinguish who was the model, who's been a radio presenter.

I'll put that here just to help you.

That one's Penny.

She's on fantastic form.

She's limbering up backstage.

We are really, really keen that in the second half hour of this experience, you get to put your questions to Penny.

So if you can use... Oh, are you ready?

Two seconds. Oh, right. If you would like to ask Penny a question, use the slido. Just have a look at that QR code and then your question will come up on my iPad and I've got to stop. We would like to welcome all times radio listeners to the forum in

Cheltenham just to prove we're live. Hello audience. It's so lovely to see you all here today.

Jane and I have hot-footed it from the news desk, the environment of our show,

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